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Indian Chief LSR 2-1 Pro Stock Spyder
Indian Chief 00-1399 Dual Coat Black Ceramic with Black Shields
The Indian Chief is a "from the ground
up" interpretation of the classical V-Twin, kept alive for over 100
years by Harley-Davidson, the sole survivor. In 111 or 116 cubic inch
formats it's short on horsepower and long on clean sheet engineering.
Indians are here to stay this time around after several aborted
attempts to revive the marque.
With beautiful paint, logos, chrome
accents and true
"Indian Heritage" styling it's a more modern interpretation of the
classical V-Twin...This time around with three camshafts in a 49 degree
Vee and some
pushrods as straight
as an Indian's arrow.
The OEM exhaust has little in the way of performance tuning. We've got that covered with a pure merge collector LSR 2-1 design. Maximum benefit with Stage 1/2/3 and larger throttle body (60mm) modifications past 130 horsepower. The Indian 2-1 exhaust, like other big twins, is the way to make the best torque and power.
The stock exhaust weighs in at 41
pounds. Our LSR 2-1 Pro Stock Spyder weighs 17 pounds...a 24 pound
weight savings. Free hp/weight gains. Go ahead, eat that second
hamburger, and large order of fries. Your 790 pound couch now weighs
766 pounds. You weigh a bit more but it's a net gain.
Prices are on our Part Number Price Page. We build to order. Payment at time of shipment. Dual Coat Black Ceramic or Silver Ceramic with a choice of black or chrome heat shields.
LSR 2-1 Indian Chief Installation PDF.
Indian Chief Full
Service Manual PDF
Indian Chief 2-1 Exhaust
Without the saddlebags. Four heat shields. Uncompromised ground clearance. Compatible with passenger floorboards. High velocity merge collector with a 2" exit into a sound-cancelling muffler. Proven LSR 2-1 Pro Stock Challenge Design with Black Hole muffler core. A pure race, uncompromised design for street of touring. The Indian Chief 2-1 exhaust uses all of RB Racing's LSR 2-1 Black Hole and Pro Stock Spyder Technology.
We designed this system for real world performance and in testing easily bested published 40-60 and 60-80 mph roll-ons in dead stock configuration. Indian Dealer upgrades to 116" are available for earlier models like the 2014 pictured above. It's all about torque.
We have over 40 years experience with
Harley Davidson exhausts and tuning, pushing them to the mid to high
100 hp range in larger displacements and past 400 hp in Turbo
Configurations. The Indian is somewhat similar except for the fact that
the newer M8 Harleys have gone to 4 valve heads. Typical 117" Harleys
are in the 130 hp range.
We offer real world tuning tools in our RSR Air Fuel Ratio Gauges whether you use Open Loop or Closed Loop tuning scenarios or if you make displacement increases and camshaft changes. Real world verification.
LSR 2-1 Pro Stock Spyder
with Bags...No Ghost Pipe, No Slip Ons
Maximum power. Pure LSR 2-1 Pro Stock Design. No left side choked off or false muffler. Clean and purposeful 2-1 Exhaust design.
This is the ultimate "Ghost Pipe" ...So ghostly it is invisible.
Heavy wall tubing support
for the
left saddlebag. No compromise on ground clearance. Satin Black Finish.
True 2-1 exhaust on the right side.
No heavy muffler, no ghost pipe. We simply go for maximum performance. The Indian Chief left saddlebag support bar is heavy wall steel and will securely lock your saddle bags into place in the exact same location as they were when they were sitting on top of the choked off left side exhaust.
The Indian Chief left saddlebag support bar is powder coated in Satin Black.
TIG Welded out of 1/4"
steel, these left side support bars are assembled in a precision
fixture and are then off to final sand blasting and powder coating.
Periodically we shut down our regular work and fabricate these.
Every once in a while
someone calls up and just wants to buy the support bar. We do not sell
these. They are just part of the system and take a long time to make.
Sold with the exhaust it sort of makes sense. Without the exhaust at
shop rates and tying up several people plus the outside finishing it
makes no sense whatsoever. We are not in the bracket business.
After we tell someone "no", they wait a month or so, and call up again wanting to buy the support bar as "their bike had an accident". We ask their name so we can look up the sale in the data base...Caller says he bought the bike with the pipe, not from us. We ask for the seven digit serial number on the exhaust so we can see who it was sold to and ask that pictures of the wrecked bike be sent and that the damaged bar be returned for inspection. Caller hangs up.
Optional 00-1416 Decibel Reduction $60.00
All LSR 2-1 Exhausts are designed to provide an acceptable sound level without any exhaust packing material and our baffles are welded in so they cannot fall out or come loose.
We offer a 00-1416 $60.00 option to install, prior to welding the baffle in place, a triple layer of stainless steel packing material. We use stainless safety wire in eighteen locations to lock in each of the three layers.
How long will it last? Years.
Almost 40 years ago we got out of the removable baffle business for several reasons. First, as we used to say, they will eventually lose the bolts or rivets, take two bounces, and go through a Mercedes windshield. Secondly was a performance issue. People would ask for different baffle sizes which could severely impact on performance. We finally went to the dragstrip and settled the baffle size question once and for all and focused on maximum performance.
All aftermarket exhaust manufacturers use an infinite variety of
machined aluminum "butt plugs", as we call them, held in place by
various fasteners. Sooner or later these get loose, fall out, or burn
up in the case of carbon fiber. No OEMs i.e. Harley-Davidson, BMW, etc.
want anything to get loose and fly out.
Recently: The newest Harley-Davidson M8's are very high compression 4 valve engines, with way over 200 psi cold cranking pressure, that bark more than their lower compression Twin Cam and Evo counterparts. They can be modified with big bore kits out as far as 151 Cubic Inches. The 00-1416 Option is also offered to the Harley crowd for the LSR 2-1 Pro Stock Spyders and LSR 2-1 Black Hole systems.
The LSR 2-1 Indian Pro Stock Spyders use our Black Hole Muffler which has twice as much muffling capacity as our Harley Spyder Systems.
This option is $60.00. Specify at time of order.
New Indian Chief 00-1306R1
Full Race Pro Stock System. Pure LSR 2-1
Pro Stock with zero restriction resonator for sound attenuation. Same
technology we use on our 180 horsepower Harley 00-1306R systems.
Same finish options as our LSR 2-1 Pro Stock Spyder Systems. This
exhaust is headed for a built Indian Chief Dark Horse in full Dual Coat
Black Ceramic. Options and pricing are on our part numbers page which has exact part numbers for the finish options.
The 00-1306R1 exhaust
is a full race system with the same merge collector we use on our
regular Indian Chief exhausts, but has a 2.5" larger secondary and a
full 2.5" I.D. stainless resonator to remove a bit of the bark without
any restriction. Click on either image for a sound clip.
This is a high velocity race system similar to those that we use on our 180Hp Harley M8 exhaust systems producing over 200 ft lbs of torque.
00-1306R1 Dyno...140 FT LBS
00-1400 on a 116"
Customer writes: "Went for a little ride today, pipe sounds great👍 ...Trash man" North Dakota
Another 00-1400 on a 116"
Customer writes: "Here is a pic of my 2017 Indian Chieftain Elite with the RB racing pipe. This bike has the 116 kit and is a blast to ride. In 25 years racing drag bikes, this is by far the best sounding bike I’ve owned. Love the pipe!! Thank you RB racing ..... Don".
112 HP 134 FT/LBS Torque: 00-1399 on a 116"
Customer writes: " Please find attached a picture of my bike with your Exhaust system as promised. I absolutely love the new Exhaust. I used to have the Freedom/Rinehart true dual exhaust and I liked it very much but the RB Racing LSR 2-1 is just so much better when it comes to the performance and the sound.
Thanks again for your
service and support, I appreciate it very much.
p.s. I have the 116" Indian kit, Vic Baggers VP60 intake and the Dyno
Jet PVCX with a custom map.
On the Dyno, it puts out around 112HP and 134 Torque. Iwan".
As is usual..get someone
who knows how to tune and the results follow. It's not about bolting on
exhausts to see what happens. Any shop that eliminates the O2 sensors
or tunes without them is crazy. Mother Bosch ME17 knows you have done wrong...consequences. Does not work.
Note: We keep several of the Black Ceramic
systems in stock. 00-1399 and 00-1400.
Customer Writes
"Just wanted to give u an
update on my 116 chieftain with your 2-1 pipe, had dyno done last
week, bike made 106 hp and 132 tq with pvcx tuner 👍👍
Trash man- john j:
Indian Chief 00-1400 Black with Chrome Shields
Double Coat Black Ceramic (Silver Ceramic Base Coat). Ceramic coated heat shield clamps. Black Hole technology in a Pro Stock Spyder System.
Dual Coat Black Ceramic
Finish
The Dual Coat Black Ceramic
is shown here after we media blast the top Black Ceramic Coat off with
#100 Oxide leaving the base Silver Ceramic Coat exposed. Holding the
blast gun at one spot for a longer period exposes the bare metal
underneath.
The Dual Coating process is expensive and takes several days with three trips to the oven. Once to clean the exhaust, once to bake on the Silver Ceramic at 600 Deg F and a third time to bake on the Black Ceramic Finish at 600 Deg F. It's the only way a Black Ceramic Finish will hold up to chemicals and corrosion. We have years of experience with this process.
Prices are on our Part Number Price Page.
00-1402 Dark Horse
Customer writes: "Hi
there. Was able to get this installed over the weekend and it
looks and sounds great. Loving the pipe. Thank you again. Brian".
Serialization of Your RB
Racing LSR 2-1 Order.
We use 2000 Degree F
Ceramic coatings on our heat shield hose clamps for our Dual Coat Black
LSR 2-1 exhaust systems. It makes the clamps "disappear" and they will
not discolor.
We also heli-braze metal
tabs
inside our heat shields that are stamped for the part
number and your order number. The three digit number is the part
number...All LSR 2-1 exhausts are 00-1XXX, with the last three digits
indicating the part number. The alphanumeric four digit number is your
order number. The exhaust, as well as the the heat shields, also has
all seven digits stamped into it. The "blank" tab is a spacer only and
does not use a hose clamp.
We maintain a database on
all exhausts sold so we know when the exhaust was sold, who ordered it,
and any and all details concerning the order.
Indian Chief 00-1401 Silver Ceramic with Chrome Shields
00-1401: Here mounted on a
2014 model...Silver Ceramic Exhaust with four chrome heat shields.
Prices are on our Part Number Price Page.
Chief LSR 2-1 Pro Stock Spyder installed without the four heat heatshields or bags. Initial customer startup.
00-1401 LSR 2-1 Pro Stock Spyder Sound
Clip...Idling.
Exhaust Stud Self Locking Nuts.
00-1010 Set (4 pcs $3.95)
of Self Locking Exhaust Stud Nuts. Add when you order Indian exhaust
systems. Stock parts are not self-locking. Don't order later on
to avoid minimum charge for small items plus postage which far exceeds
the value of the items.
No Slip-Ons
No, we don't do slip-on
mufflers.
Every manufacturer rushes out to do slip-ons for the Indian Chief and
then gives you a choice of machined billet end caps that do nothing for
performance. We found out 30 years ago that end caps and baffles held
on by screws fall out..The joke here in California was that they bounce
twice and then go through a Mercedes windshield. We weld things.
There's another reason for
this...Doing a true 2-1 exhaust for the Indian Chief is damn difficult.
You
have to get around the OEM design which features permanent die castings
for the port flanges and the first part of the primary tubes that
quickly morph into compound bends hidden under a close fitting,
bolt-on, finned covers.
Tight Tight Tight! We worked for several months perfecting the design
and fixtures.
We don't do duals. We don't do slip-ons. We don't do bolt-on billet end caps.
In short we do not do phony. We sure aren't going to ask you to hacksaw your head pipes to add on a 2-1 collector.
Stepped Headers..For Clowns
An interesting issue is the buzzword “Stepped Headers". This is a situation that is sort of like a runaway train with John Voight at the controls...It is hard to stop and question it once it gets rolling. What we really need to think about are the volumes and any changes inside the primary tubes. A stepped header made of of three, four, or five next size up tubes, welded together, is just a marketing game.
Simply welding together
"next size up" tubes to produce "steps" leaves 90 degree ledges that
disrupt flow and cause turbulence affecting the mass flow rate...not
exactly what people claim.
True "steps" use a tapered
step which must be experimentally derived as to the angle, location in
the system, and size of the step. In general, the purpose is to get a
secondary reflection at a specific rpm. At the highest level of
motorsports where these are used..only
one step is employed as with
multiple steps the reflections tend to cancel out each other.
You need to
understand..."Stepped Headers" as are currently
marketed with multiple "steps" are basically bullshit, conjured up
with no scientific verification, no testing whatsoever, and are just
designed to get your hard-earned dollars.
Bosch Torque Based ME17 ECU
Bosch makes the ecu on the Indian Motorcycles, the other Polaris products, and millions of four cylinder automobiles. For the two cylinder the Indians they simply leave off two of the injector drivers. These use Bosch's predictive torque based code, not volumetric efficiency, or millisecond look up tables with modifiers. To get an idea of the complexity of this take a look at Bosch's ME7 PDF on Torque Based Strategy.
We know someone who was offered software programming data on the ME17 for $10,000.00 but he turned down the offer when the seller refused or could not prove he could do what he said he could do. The seller then sold the package to Dynojet.
We simply advise people to use our Dual RSR Air Fuel Ratio Gauges to observe while they ride and then make a decision on how they will make corrections. There is a tendency to turn these modern ECU's into electric carburetors bypassing the closed loop function. Our gauges work in either closed or open loop, reading the Delphi 12mm O2 sensors...All in the real world as you ride.
Getting 30 or so MPG on a
modern big twin is patently stupid. Delphi based Harleys can get 50 mpg
stock.
Dual RSR Air Fuel Ratio Gauge: Indian
Chief (12mm) O2 Sensors
Commebts O2 Meters and Tuning...Customer Comments (Harley & Other Bikes)
Customer writes: "When the gauge arrived I knew it would be of a very high quality, it has far surpassed my expectations. I was very eager to get this installed and take a look at my tune. Amazing to see how little adjustments on the carb effect the AFR. As a result of this gauge, I have dropped one size on the low speed jet, raised the clip on notch and confirmed the main jet on my Mik48. Thank you, I really like this gauge. Ed"
Customer writes: "Can I use your Air Fuel Ratio meter on Carburated V8 ford motor? I used one that I purchased from a friend on my 124 S&S motor. It worked much better than the dyno shop. I had my motor dynoed then took it home and installed my Air Flow meter. It was running pretty fat. I leaned it out a bit and to my surprise it was like adding 15 hp to my bike. Maybe more. The dyno came back with 156 hp to the rear wheel. Anyways I digress. Back to my question. V8 Ford 302 Carburated motor. will this meter work on a V8 motor."
RB Racing: "Yes".Customer writes: "Sounds like a FAST Harley! Revs quicker. Everyone that knows the bike immediately notices how the engine has better throttle response now. One blip of the throttle is all it takes to spark envy. It has a noticeable volume and powerful sound on acceleration complimented by a smooth deceleration growl. Cruising volume is somehow arguably quieter than the V&H slip-ons that were on the bike previously. The chrome is flawless. Packaging was excellent. It’s amazing how spot-on the fitment of the slip joints are. The mounting bracket is perfect in form, fit and function. Everything eases into place with a slow methodical hand. Don’t force or rush the installation and you will complete it without frustration. I bought the Dual AFR meter at the same time as the pipe. I cannot imagine an easier way to tune with my TTS MasterTune! I was able to actually improve the tune and power while maintaining 43 mpg. Thanks! Ryan"
00-1316 LSR 2-1 using RSR Dual Air Fuel Ratio Gauge.
Customer writes: "I had my TT 500 landspeed motor on the dyno the other day. Fueling was spot on thanks to your AFR gauge used on road tests. The dyno operator pointed out how the RB gauge was agreeing with his test equipment. You guys know this but we were both very impressed. I am still using Mikuni carbs so I use a marked twist grip and keep my Sudco book handy. This gauge has now made about 20 runs on the salt and covered many road miles with no problems. This 500cc single vibrated two of the K&N units to death in no time before that. Thanks, Tony."
Customer writes: "Hello, I have installed your 2:1 LSR pipe (00-1122) with the AFR gauge. It's the best money I've spent on my bike. The fitment of the pipe is great and it was not a wrestling match to install as are most other pipes. Thanks for the great product. Kenny".
Customer Writes: "I
received my RSR Air/Fuel Ratio Gauge in October and installed it within
the week. I am very happy with the Gauge, I have adjusted the Mikuni
based on the gauge indication. I feel that the RSR Air/Fuel Ratio Gauge
is very accurate and repeatable. When I have the Mikuni adjusted just
where I want it, then the engine temperature drops 20 or 30 degrees.
The RSR Air/Fuel Ratio Gauge may be your greatest sales tool for your
RSR Efi. The fuel ratio gauge constantly reminds me of the limitations
of the carburetor.
I have continued to read and re-read the information on your website. It is informative, educational and often entertaining. Based on you recommendation, I ordered the Compu-Fire 40A 3-Phase charging system and I plant to implement all seven of your Recommended Procedures and Comments."
Customer writes: " Thanks for the pipe and fuel ratio gauge. It was worth the wait. 116 inch with 2 inch pipe. The bike sounds really good. I have had the Thunder Header before and did not care for the sound or the performance. The pipe was too small though. This pipe sounds like a Harley should and it seems to rev quicker. Without the RSR Air Fuel Ratio Gauge I would have had different jets in it. { do not want to pay for dyno! } Thanks, Gregg." 00-1124 LSR 2-1 Turn Out, rotated 45 Deg, chrome w/ three heat shields."
Mounts....Roll Your Own or Buy One
The gauges have a center back mount 5/16" x 18 x 1/2" Stainless Socket Head Cap Screw and stainless lock washer. You can fab your own bracket for this or use the 06-1025 hard anodized Billet Mount System for 1.25" Indian Chief handlebars $49.95. Optional is the 06-1024 two piece laser cut 304 Stainless Steel mounting tabs for either near handlebar clamp or up the handlebar mounting: $9.95.
The RSR Dual O2 Guage has a total of eight wires which are sheathed in Raychem DR-25. Above the Green Wire for the front O2 Sensor snakes forward and to the left side of the bike. There is no need to remove the gas tank to complete the installation...Only the seat removal. Real world not dyno world observation.
Here is a cold start event on 2014 Indian Chief showing how quickly the bike goes into closed loop from fully rich. Dual RSR Gauge.
RSR Indian Chief Dual O2 Display Installation PDF
Indian Chief Wiring Schematic 2014-2016
2017 Indian Chief
Service Manual (wiring page 640)
Indian Scout LSR 2-1 Pro Stock Spyder